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aimeee 发表于 2007-9-14 12:11

[求助]请教2.5-06年6月试题中关于eps的计算

<p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none;"><font face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: NewsGothicBT-Light; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: NewsGothicBT-Light;">The issued share capital of Savoir, a publicly listed company, at 31 March 2003 was $10 million. Its sharesare denominated at 25 cents each. Savoir’s earnings attributable to its ordinary hareholders for the year ended 31 March 2003 were also $10 million, giving an earnings per share of 25 cents.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: NewsGothicBT-Demi; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: NewsGothicBT-Demi;">Year ended 31 March 2004<p></p></span></font></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: NewsGothicBT-Light; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: NewsGothicBT-Light;"><font face="Times New Roman">On 1 July 2003 Savoir issued eight million ordinary shares at full market value.<span style="COLOR: #ff6600;"> On 1 January <chmetcnv unitname="a" sourcevalue="2004" hasspace="True" negative="False" numbertype="1" tcsc="0" wst="on"></chmetcnv>2004 a<chmetcnv></chmetcnv> bonus issue </span>of one new ordinary share for every four ordinary shares held was made. Earnings attributable to<p></p></font></span></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: NewsGothicBT-Light; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: NewsGothicBT-Light;"><font face="Times New Roman">ordinary shareholders for the year ended 31 March 2004 were $13,800,000.<p></p></font></span></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none;"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: NewsGothicBT-Bold; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: NewsGothicBT-Bold;"><font face="Times New Roman">Required:<p></p></font></span></b></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none;"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: NewsGothicBT-Bold; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: NewsGothicBT-Bold;"><font face="Times New Roman">Calculate Savoir’s earnings per share for the years ended 31 March 2004 including<p></p></font></span></b></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none;"><font face="Times New Roman"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: NewsGothicBT-Bold; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: NewsGothicBT-Bold;">comparative figures.</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: NewsGothicBT-Light; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: NewsGothicBT-Light;"><p></p></span></font></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: NewsGothicBT-Light; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: NewsGothicBT-Light;"><font face="Times New Roman">Savoir – EPS year ended 31 March 2004:<p></p></font></span></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: NewsGothicBT-Light; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: NewsGothicBT-Light;"><font face="Times New Roman">The issue on 1 July 2003 at full market value needs to be weighted:<p></p></font></span></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none;"><font face="Times New Roman"><chmetcnv unitname="m" sourcevalue="40" hasspace="False" negative="False" numbertype="1" tcsc="0" wst="on"></chmetcnv><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: NewsGothicBT-Light; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: NewsGothicBT-Light;">40m</span><chmetcnv></chmetcnv><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: NewsGothicBT-Light; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: NewsGothicBT-Light;"> x 3/12 = <chmetcnv unitname="m" sourcevalue="10" hasspace="False" negative="False" numbertype="1" tcsc="0" wst="on"></chmetcnv>10m<chmetcnv></chmetcnv><p></p></span></font></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: NewsGothicBT-Light; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: NewsGothicBT-Light;"><font face="Times New Roman">New shares <chmetcnv unitname="m" sourcevalue="8" hasspace="False" negative="False" numbertype="1" tcsc="0" wst="on"></chmetcnv>8m<chmetcnv></chmetcnv><p></p></font></span></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none;"><font face="Times New Roman"><chmetcnv unitname="m" sourcevalue="48" hasspace="False" negative="False" numbertype="1" tcsc="0" wst="on"></chmetcnv><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: NewsGothicBT-Light; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: NewsGothicBT-Light;">48m</span><chmetcnv></chmetcnv><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: NewsGothicBT-Light; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: NewsGothicBT-Light;"> x 9/12 = <chmetcnv unitname="m" sourcevalue="36" hasspace="False" negative="False" numbertype="1" tcsc="0" wst="on"></chmetcnv>36m<chmetcnv></chmetcnv><p></p></span></font></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none;"><font face="Times New Roman"><chmetcnv unitname="m" sourcevalue="46" hasspace="False" negative="False" numbertype="1" tcsc="0" wst="on"></chmetcnv><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: NewsGothicBT-Light; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: NewsGothicBT-Light;">46m</span><chmetcnv></chmetcnv><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: NewsGothicBT-Light; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: NewsGothicBT-Light;"><p></p></span></font></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: NewsGothicBT-Light; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: NewsGothicBT-Light;"><font face="Times New Roman">Without the bonus issue this would give an EPS of <chmetcnv unitname="C" sourcevalue="30" hasspace="False" negative="False" numbertype="1" tcsc="0" wst="on"></chmetcnv>30c<chmetcnv></chmetcnv> ($13·<chmetcnv unitname="m" sourcevalue="8" hasspace="False" negative="False" numbertype="1" tcsc="0" wst="on"></chmetcnv>8m<chmetcnv></chmetcnv>/<chmetcnv unitname="m" sourcevalue="46" hasspace="False" negative="False" numbertype="1" tcsc="0" wst="on"></chmetcnv>46m<chmetcnv></chmetcnv> x 100).<p></p></font></span></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: NewsGothicBT-Light; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: NewsGothicBT-Light;"><font face="Times New Roman">The bonus issue of one for four would result in 12 million new shares giving a total number of ordinary shares of 60 million. The dilutive effect of the bonus issue would reduce the EPS to <chmetcnv unitname="C" sourcevalue="24" hasspace="False" negative="False" numbertype="1" tcsc="0" wst="on"></chmetcnv>24c<chmetcnv></chmetcnv> (<chmetcnv unitname="C" sourcevalue="30" hasspace="False" negative="False" numbertype="1" tcsc="0" wst="on"></chmetcnv>30c<chmetcnv></chmetcnv> x <chmetcnv unitname="m" sourcevalue="48" hasspace="False" negative="False" numbertype="1" tcsc="0" wst="on"></chmetcnv>48m<chmetcnv></chmetcnv>/<chmetcnv unitname="m" sourcevalue="60" hasspace="False" negative="False" numbertype="1" tcsc="0" wst="on"></chmetcnv>60m<chmetcnv></chmetcnv>).<span style="COLOR: #ff6600;"><br/>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; COLOR: #ff6600; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: NewsGothicBT-Light; mso-ascii-font-family: NewsGothicBT-Light; mso-hansi-font-family: NewsGothicBT-Light;">这里请问</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; COLOR: #ff6600; FONT-FAMILY: NewsGothicBT-Light; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: NewsGothicBT-Light;"><font face="Times New Roman">BONUS ISSUE</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; COLOR: #ff6600; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: NewsGothicBT-Light; mso-ascii-font-family: NewsGothicBT-Light; mso-hansi-font-family: NewsGothicBT-Light;">的计算是不是都视同会计年度的第</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; COLOR: #ff6600; FONT-FAMILY: NewsGothicBT-Light; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: NewsGothicBT-Light;"><font face="Times New Roman">1</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; COLOR: #ff6600; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: NewsGothicBT-Light; mso-ascii-font-family: NewsGothicBT-Light; mso-hansi-font-family: NewsGothicBT-Light;">天发生?为什么不是这么算:</span><font face="Times New Roman"><chmetcnv unitname="m" sourcevalue="13.8" hasspace="False" negative="False" numbertype="1" tcsc="0" wst="on"></chmetcnv><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; COLOR: #ff6600; FONT-FAMILY: NewsGothicBT-Light; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: NewsGothicBT-Light;">13.8m</span><chmetcnv></chmetcnv><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; COLOR: #ff6600; FONT-FAMILY: NewsGothicBT-Light; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: NewsGothicBT-Light;">/(<chmetcnv unitname="m" sourcevalue="46" hasspace="False" negative="False" numbertype="1" tcsc="0" wst="on"></chmetcnv>46m<chmetcnv></chmetcnv>+<chmetcnv unitname="m" sourcevalue="12" hasspace="False" negative="False" numbertype="1" tcsc="0" wst="on"></chmetcnv>12m<chmetcnv></chmetcnv>*3/12)=<chmetcnv unitname="C" sourcevalue="28" hasspace="False" negative="False" numbertype="1" tcsc="0" wst="on"></chmetcnv>28c<chmetcnv></chmetcnv>?<p></p></span></font></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: NewsGothicBT-Light; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: NewsGothicBT-Light;"><font face="Times New Roman">The comparative EPS (for 2003) would be restated at <chmetcnv unitname="C" sourcevalue="20" hasspace="False" negative="False" numbertype="1" tcsc="0" wst="on"></chmetcnv>20c<chmetcnv></chmetcnv> (<chmetcnv unitname="C" sourcevalue="25" hasspace="False" negative="False" numbertype="1" tcsc="0" wst="on"></chmetcnv>25c<chmetcnv></chmetcnv> x <chmetcnv unitname="m" sourcevalue="48" hasspace="False" negative="False" numbertype="1" tcsc="0" wst="on"></chmetcnv>48m<chmetcnv></chmetcnv>/<chmetcnv unitname="m" sourcevalue="60" hasspace="False" negative="False" numbertype="1" tcsc="0" wst="on"></chmetcnv>60m<chmetcnv></chmetcnv>).<p></p></font></span></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt;"><p><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;</font></p></span></p><p><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;</font></p><p></p>

bobaini 发表于 2007-9-20 20:30

<p>bonus issue的计算不是视同会计年度的第一天发生的,我觉得正确的解法应该是这样:</p><p>40M+40M*1/4=50M(这是不需要加权的那部分加上bonus issue)</p><p>8*9/12=6M(这是七月一号发行的,加权后的)</p><p>bonus issue:6M(加权后的)*1/4=1.5M</p><p>所以总共的加权数:50+1.5+6=57.5M</p><p>eps=13.8/57.5=0.24</p><p>楼主贴出的计算方法是另一种方法,如果照楼主的疑惑的解法的话,那么就犯了两次加权的错误。</p><p>鄙人愚见,愿抛砖引玉</p><p>借贴问件事儿:为什么斑竹没有让我加入qq群~~</p><p></p>

aimeee 发表于 2007-9-25 10:16

<p>谢谢你的解答,还有一点小疑问:</p><p>我理解,新的8百万股不管是7月还是8月或是4月等月发行,这8百万股带来的bonus issue应该都是2百万股,因为是在1月得到的,所以加权后应该是2×3/12=0.5M</p><p>按你的理解,如果新股是八月1号发行,bonus issue:8*8/12*1/4=1.3M。</p><p>实际上,新股如果是八月1号发行,我还是得到2百万bonus issue啊。</p>

aimeee 发表于 2007-9-28 09:36

<div align="left" style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-ALIGN: left;"><span style="COLOR: #222222;"><span style="COLOR: #222222;"><span style="COLOR: #222222;"><span style="COLOR: #222222;">bobaini,第一贴是官方答案。</span></span></span></span></div><div align="left" style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-ALIGN: left;"><span style="COLOR: #222222;"><span style="COLOR: #222222;"><span style="COLOR: #222222;"><span style="COLOR: #222222;">网友Hilson的答复: “</span></span>Because of no additional resource injection, the basic EPS will be diluted. ”</span></span></div><div align="left" style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-ALIGN: left;"><span style="COLOR: #222222;"><span style="COLOR: #222222;">我觉得这句话是重点,是不是应该这样理解:bonus issue没有相应的资源注入,因此总资源还是13,800,000.00, 即30C×46M,由60M股来分,eps=30c*46/60.</span></span></div><div align="left" style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-ALIGN: left;"><span style="COLOR: #222222;"><span style="COLOR: #222222;">可是,为什么答案是48?而不是 30C*46/58?</span></span></div><div align="left" style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-ALIGN: left;"><span style="COLOR: #222222;"><span style="COLOR: #222222;"></span></span></div><div align="left" style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-ALIGN: left;"><b><span style="COLOR: #222222;"><span style="COLOR: #222222;"></span></span></b></div>

bobaini 发表于 2007-9-28 20:04

<p>您那个58又是哪里来的啊,我昨天向国内求助了,证实了那个想法,bonus issue不用做时间加权。</p><p>“因此总资源还是13,800,000.00, 即30C×46M,由60M股来分,eps=30c*46/60.”要分也不是用这个来分啊,要分也是30c*46/[40+40*1/8+8*9/12+(8*9/12*1/4)]=30*46/57.5=24c,结果一样,验证了吧,你没有对8m加权.</p><p>答案是48/60是因为前面的30c是加权过的了,你再加权不就两次了吗。</p><p>&nbsp;</p>[em31]

bobaini 发表于 2007-10-5 20:04

<p>呵呵我有什么可以学习的啊,大家可以互相讨论一下,共同进步,帮你解答问题的同时,我也学到了好多东西的。</p><p>以后有什么疑惑,大家再一起讨论吧</p><p>PS:你是在这个论坛中第一个我认为诚心诚意想学习acca的人</p>

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